This situation now is.... copyright infringement....which I hadn't considered, my motives were ignorantly wanting to share....so don't read.....I'm aware two wrongs don't make a right...more then even breaking a law a freggin law, as you say.........I wouldn't want to disrespect Mr. Franz in anyway....
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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz
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http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.
just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .
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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz
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http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.
just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .
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Four chapters of his book "Crisis Of Conscience" by Ray Franz are "available online". These chapters are available for download as PDF files. WTF.....if you read it Black Sheep.....maybe you should be paying me for the download.....
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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz
by mind blown in.
http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.
just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .
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oppps.....I didn't do the space thing correct so you could just click the link.....I don' think I'm doing it right.....sorry.....
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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz
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http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.
just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .
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http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf
Just saw a Youtube clip of Mr. Franz while he as visiting Prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the WTS because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself.....
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Another question!
by Strider Arekksu ini'm sorry for asking so many, but i guess it's hard for me to not ponder about things like these.
ok the people at the top of the wts are crooks in it for the money right?
they use an organization that preaches about a god that has justice for those who are weak at heart.
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I hope you're joking teel......Ray Franz has said no such thing..unless you made a type o and ment THEY/GB think they are actually for real.
Below is a quote from one of Ray Franz books.
"I am convinced that the one true religion is Christianity itself, not some religious system claiming to represent and exemplify it, I also believe that the truth is found in the Scriptures, not in any particular set of interpretations that men have developed or may yet develop....
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UN & Britain taking Pope to International Criminal Court "Updated Info" 4/8/10
by mind blown inoppsss....someone touchey the unclean thingy.....read carefully..... http://www.c-fam.org/publications/pub_detail.asp?id=1606.
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Thank You for the tip Blonde....
Sorry about the thread..........honestly, I purposely omitted the question mark......I was naughty...... knew it would freak the Watchers ....... ....however, could happen sooner, rather then later..... ......
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UN & Britain taking Pope to International Criminal Court "Updated Info" 4/8/10
by mind blown inoppsss....someone touchey the unclean thingy.....read carefully..... http://www.c-fam.org/publications/pub_detail.asp?id=1606.
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Oppsss....someone touchey the unclean thingy.....read carefully....
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Pedophiles in your congregation??
by ziddina ini'm listening to the "six screens of the watchtower" broadcast from october 25, 2008 [yeah, i know, i'm waaay behind...], discussing pedophilia... that broadcast caused me to look up the current status of 'pedophilia notification' in the u.s.a..... rebel8 posted a link sometime back that gave locations of pedophiles in one's (u.s.a.) neighborhood... that portion of the link is, unfortunately, not working right now.... i decided to check out my [old] site, http://www.nsopw.gov/core/offendersearchcriteria.aspx to see if it still functioned the same way.... again, unfortunately, that site is also no longer giving out maps of one's area.... but, as pointed out in rebel8's posted link, pedophiles tend to move around.
this was also mentioned in the six screens broadcast by a lady named "lilly".... the new versions of both sites simply allow one to input the name of someone suspected to be a pedophile... not as effective, imo, but perhaps the cost of updating the maps due to pedophiles' high mobility became prohibitive.. so, here's my suggestion... using the 'name' search function, check out every name in .
your congregation, starting with the elders!!!.
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You're very welcome...
I'm rather fixed on this whole thing being I was a victim by a brother, who I'm sure has gone on to molest more JW and other Children.....someone brought out a good point. So what, I child abuser gets DF, but unleashing them to victimize other children on the planet.....
I'm angry...because not only was I victimized by the brother but the GB by WRONG POLICIES of other matters they teach....
This is actually funny.....a man was charged with a "hate crime" for pouring oil at back door of Kingdom Hall......but I guess the GB is in no way responsible for "Violent Acts Of Crimes" against children.....
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Pedophiles in your congregation??
by ziddina ini'm listening to the "six screens of the watchtower" broadcast from october 25, 2008 [yeah, i know, i'm waaay behind...], discussing pedophilia... that broadcast caused me to look up the current status of 'pedophilia notification' in the u.s.a..... rebel8 posted a link sometime back that gave locations of pedophiles in one's (u.s.a.) neighborhood... that portion of the link is, unfortunately, not working right now.... i decided to check out my [old] site, http://www.nsopw.gov/core/offendersearchcriteria.aspx to see if it still functioned the same way.... again, unfortunately, that site is also no longer giving out maps of one's area.... but, as pointed out in rebel8's posted link, pedophiles tend to move around.
this was also mentioned in the six screens broadcast by a lady named "lilly".... the new versions of both sites simply allow one to input the name of someone suspected to be a pedophile... not as effective, imo, but perhaps the cost of updating the maps due to pedophiles' high mobility became prohibitive.. so, here's my suggestion... using the 'name' search function, check out every name in .
your congregation, starting with the elders!!!.
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Couldn't resist..compelled to post this...you may find this interesting.....Prosecute The Pope by "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT".....they are now saying sex crimes against children are "Violent Acts" against children as well as withholding facts....
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-01/take-him-to-court/
http://baptistplanet.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/put-the-pope-on-trial-literally/
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2010/03/investigate_the_pope.html
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Pedophiles in your congregation??
by ziddina ini'm listening to the "six screens of the watchtower" broadcast from october 25, 2008 [yeah, i know, i'm waaay behind...], discussing pedophilia... that broadcast caused me to look up the current status of 'pedophilia notification' in the u.s.a..... rebel8 posted a link sometime back that gave locations of pedophiles in one's (u.s.a.) neighborhood... that portion of the link is, unfortunately, not working right now.... i decided to check out my [old] site, http://www.nsopw.gov/core/offendersearchcriteria.aspx to see if it still functioned the same way.... again, unfortunately, that site is also no longer giving out maps of one's area.... but, as pointed out in rebel8's posted link, pedophiles tend to move around.
this was also mentioned in the six screens broadcast by a lady named "lilly".... the new versions of both sites simply allow one to input the name of someone suspected to be a pedophile... not as effective, imo, but perhaps the cost of updating the maps due to pedophiles' high mobility became prohibitive.. so, here's my suggestion... using the 'name' search function, check out every name in .
your congregation, starting with the elders!!!.
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If Bill Bowen (SilentLambs) was such a lier...why hasn't the WTS used their well paid attorneys to sue him or shut his site down?
It's totally DISGUSTING to think that an organization who claims to be Jehovah's messengers would even put in print..." if a state doesn't make it mandatory to report the CRIME OF CHILDREN they don't have to"!
As said before...it's a clear case.....let the proper professionals handle the cases with professional investigators..and law...obey the laws of the lands.....in fact, it's a UNIVERSAL LAW OF CONSCIOUS, child sex abuse is not to be tolerated by anyone....the two witness, three witness DID apply not too long ago...and that applied to ADULTS...notice if a brother has something against you.....
I hear this excuse from many of you....oh well, it happens in all the other religions. Actually, JWs are a smaller group...so of course their are going to be more among the Catholics with sex abuse....Oh well, I guess the CHILD asked for it.....or dress wrong....Oh well, it's made up in the child's mind....Oh well, there's a cleansing of the molesters in the Cong....(there will be a cleansing from the top for not taking).Oh well, even though we have problems....we are not the worst of the worst...REALLY? You are to be unblemished among the nations.....as an example to his name! You have become like the other religions making foul excuses for many things...I was molested by a Jehovah's Witness brother.....as a very young soul....I was victimized....my childhood damaged.....there should have NEVER BEEN two witness, three witness policy when it comes to CHILD SEX CRIMES, PERIOD! It's not like adultry, smoking....etc....what kind of moral, god like, concisous is this. Maybe if you knew the filthy details of my victimization, it would become more real to you.....instead of spewing your coldhearted comments.....
What part of...."They did not go to the authorities" do you not understand?
What part of...."It's totally DISGUSTING to think that an organization who claims to be Jehovah's messengers would even dare put in print..." if a state doesn't make it mandatory to report SEX CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, they don't have to"!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21917798/ns/night...
Evil deeds of one person? Evil deeds on only a few? Really?
Even if cases were mishandled..do you think they (GB or Elders) would ever say anything to the victims? Do you think Elders feel repentful/sorry for mishandling the cases.....maybe they should get DF by God for mishandling cases....but I guess that's why the WTS is paying out...for settlements....and setting gage orders....
No worries, I will not return to your site...I'm rather disgusted by many of your attitudes. Matthew 19: 14 ( the irony)